VAP-62 Det Alpha Newsletter June 15, 1962.
contributed by Harold Abbott on 10/4/06
VAP-62 Det Alpha Newsletter
What ever happened to the old birds?
A3D-1P 130358---Only 1P --May be on Display ???
All the rest are A3D-2P's::
142666--AMARC, still w/ camera gear!
144826--Lost w/VAP-61, 8/8/69 double flame-out Vietnam
144827--Lost w/VAQ-33, 11/1/87 mid-air w/ KA-3D Alaska
144828--Lost w/VAP-61, 6/16/67 inflight fire Cubi Point
144829--Lost w/VAP-62, 6/64 in North Carolina
144830--Lost w/VAP-61, 5/16/63 lost in flight Agana
144831--Salvaged at NARF 6/76
144832--convert to ERA-3B, Mojave
144833--convert to NRA-B, later spare parts bird
144835--Lost w/VAP-61, 8/25/67, Vietnam
144836--Lost w/VAP-62, 3/60, lost in flight
144837--Lost w/VAP-62, 4/69, lost in flight
144839--Salvaged at NARF, 11/69
144840--Spare parts bird, 1987
144842--Lost w/VAP-61, 6/13/66, AAA fire Vietnam
144844--Lost w/VAP-61, 10/14/67
144845--Lost w/VAP-62, 9/60
144847--Lost w/VAP-61, 1/1/68, lost off USS Oriskany
The following two birds had "CLE" (cambered leading edge) wings.
146447- to VAP-62, conv. to ERA-3B 1972, later stricken at AMARC
146448- to VAP-61, conv. to ERA-3B 1972, later to Hughes/Raytheon, Tuscon
That's all the birds I could find, 31 of them ??
Below is a Newsletter for VAP-62 Det 19-66, contributed by John DeFiore on 3/18/05
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This list from Tom McClain, VCP-61, VAP-61, 1958-1961
Cdr. Spuhler was the C.O. of VAP- 61 in early 1960, he resigned/ retired and CDR. Crowder relieved him and took command as C.O. of the Squadron.
I will try to put this together so that it makes some sense. some of the Pilots and crew flew in the AJ's as well as the A3D's, so I will put an asterisk after the names of the ones I THINK are both. this is when I arrived and thru when I left.
CDR. J.J. Crowder C.O. ** ( MAINT.KING
CDR. J.W. Jenkins X.O. ** LCDR. R.T. Riley )
LCDR. E.D.Ellna **
LCDR. C.E. Nord**
Lt. Wes Mason**
There was a C.O. before CDR. Crowder, but I cannot remember his name, we got there for the change of Command.
The next group were all pilots, but were put in the unhappy position of having to Fly as Photo Navigators, we had no N.F.O.'s They all eventually soloed in the A3D. remember Photo's only had one pilot seat.
Lt. N.D. Smith
Lt. Ray Stewart
Lt. Tom McMurtry
Lt.David l. Cooley
footnote: If you go to the Navy Times archives, Janurary 20, 2003 page 40 in the right hand Column "Damn the Torpedoes" Navy Heros, it explains, " Enlisted Bombardier/ Navigators Led to Flight Officer Program"
LTjg. Lafever NFO, B/N is the only one I can remember, LCDR. Nord and I took him on training flights. I am sure More began to come in as I was leaving.
I also had the Great Pleasure of flying as Lt. McMurtry's photo nav on his solo and Fam flights out of Cubi Pt. P.I. 20-21 April1961. what great Times! solo 144834 fam 144830
Pilots that arrived during my tour.
LCDR. J.A. Rogers
LCDR. R.E. Shuhcer
LCDR. J. Kremp
Aircrew: PH1 Ole Olson** came later
PH1 Jack Pierce** AQ1 John Dudeck
PH1 Jean Cote** PH1 jack Kramer
PH1 Ralph Halcomb** PHC Marlin Gorum
PH1 Bob Tripp**
PH2 Tom McClain
Cdr. Crowder and Ole Olson took me up for my first Fam ride. I heard that "Spade Cooley died in an f-111 plane crash, he was on swap duty with the A.F.
Crew Setups: CDR. Crowder, Lt. Cooley, PH1 Olson
CDR. Jenkins, Lt. Stewart, PH1 Pierce
LCDR. Ellna, Lt. Smith, PH1 Halcomb
LCDR. Nord, Lt. Mcmurtry, PH2 McClain
Lt. Mason, Lt.Fickancher, PH1 Tripp Thats about it for this one, I can remember (6) F-8U-1p Pilots, Lcdr. Les Johnson My OinC
Lt. Houle Midway Det.
Lt. Johnson Hancock Det.
This Lt. Johnson punched out of an F8U-1p at Agana
Guam, He had a fire warning light and vibration, so he went, He Came out Ok, Plane did not!!! thats it for this one. Tom McClain.
These have been around, but thought they might be worth another "look-see" and a few grins!
The Navy Chief
For you non-Navy types this may sound like a foreign language in parts. All the services have enlisted paygrades E1 to E9. The Navy having a Chief (E7), Senior Chief (E8) and Master Chief (E9). The big change takes place when a Navy E6 is promoted to Chief. No other service has anything remotely like that change. The Chief dons a completely different uniform than he has worn all his Navy career. He leaves his rack (bunk) in the crew's compartment, and moves into the Chief's quarters. He now takes his meals in the Chief's mess. Perhaps most important, he has been given a higher degree of authority, and with it comparable responsibility. He goes through a Chief's initiation when his fellow Chiefs E7,8 and 9, welcome him to the fraternity. Those shipmates will be the ones who will guide him and who he will emulate, to become known as one of the Chiefs that "run the Navy." If he succeeds, and most do, he will gain the respect of all those junior to him, and also the officers over him. Many an Admiral or other senior officer will recall the advice they received as a junior officer from a favorite chief. It was my privilege to have served 15 years on active duty as a Master Chief, and there just is no place, none, in the civilian community that has similar authority, responsibilities and privileges. I might add that these qualities are available in proportion to lower paygrades, not only in the Navy, but also the other services. There is nothing in civilian life that will give a 17,18 or 19 year-old he responsibility he has in the military. You who have served can be proud of your service. Those who have a loved one who has served, or is serving now, can also be proud of them, remembering that they will "always give more, some times much more, than they will receive," and more than you will ever understand! BigAl
The Navy Chief [a class of their own]
The Power of the Almighty Chief Petty Officer
As a crowded airliner is about to takeoff, the peace is suddenly shattered by a five-year-old boy who picks that moment to throw a wild temper tantrum. No matter what his frustrated, embarrassed mother does to try to calm him down, the boy continues to scream furiously and kick the seats around him. Suddenly, from the rear of the plane, an older man in the uniform of a US Navy Chief begins to make his way up the aisle. Stopping the frustrated mother's upraised hand, the white haired, courtly, soft-spoken Chief leans down and, motioning toward his collar, whispers something into the boy's ear. Instantly, the boy calms down, gently takes his mother's hand, and quietly fastens his seat belt. All the other passengers burst into spontaneous applause. As the Chief slowly makes his way back to his seat, one of the cabin attendants touches his sleeve. "Excuse me Chief," she asks quietly, "could I ask you what magic words you used on that little boy?"
The Chief smiled serenely and gently confides, "I showed him my anchors, service stripes, and battle ribbons, and then explained to him that they entitled me to throw one passenger out of the plane."
A Petty Officer Second Class, First Class and a Chief are off the ship together for lunch. While crossing a park they come upon an antique oil lamp. They rub it and a Genie comes out in a puff of smoke. The Genie says, "I usually only grant three wishes, so I'll give each of you just one." "Me first!" says the Petty Officer Second Class. "I want to be in the Bahamas, driving a speedboat, a beautiful woman at my side and not a care in the world." Poof! He's gone. "Me next!" says the First Class. "I want to be in Hawaii, relaxing on the beach with my personal masseuse, an endless supply of pina coladas and a beautiful woman." Poof! He's gone. "You're next," the Genie says to the Chief.
The Chief says, "I want those two back on the ship right after lunch."
"The Chief and the Gunny"
An old Chief and an old Gunny were sitting at the VFW arguing about who'd had the tougher career. "I did 30 years in the Corps," the Gunny declared proudly, "and fought in three of my country's wars. Fresh out of boot camp I hit the beach at Okinawa, clawed my way up the blood soaked sand, and eventually took out an entire enemy machine gun nest with a single grenade.
"As a sergeant, I fought in Korea alongside General MacArthur. We pushed back the enemy inch by bloody inch all the way up to the Chinese border, always under a barrage of artillery and small arms fire. "Finally, as a gunny sergeant, I did three consecutive combat tours in Vietnam. We humped through the mud and razor grass for 14 hours a day, plagued by rain and mosquitoes, ducking under sniper fire all day and mortar fire all night.
In a fire fight, we'd fire until our arms ached and our guns were empty, then we'd charge the enemy with bayonets!"
"Ah," said the Chief with a dismissive wave of his hand, "all shore duty, huh?"
The Mustang's new gun dog
A Mustang retired after 35 years and realized a lifelong dream of buying a bird-hunting estate in Alaska. He invited an old Admiral friend to visit for a week of pheasant shooting. The friend was in awe of "Chief" the Mustang's new gun dog. The dog could point, flush and retrieve with the very best.
The Admiral offered to buy the dog at any price. The Mustang declined, saying that Chief was the very best bird dog he had ever owned and that he couldn't part with him. Six months later the same Admiral returned for another week of hunting and was surprised to find the Mustang breaking in a new dog.
"What happened to Chief?" he asked.
"Had to shoot him," the Mustang replied. "Another old shipmate came to hunt with me and couldn't remember the dog's name. He kept calling him 'Master Chief.' After that, all the dog would do was sit on his butt and bark."
In a small town near Washington, DC, a barber opened his shop for business.
A young enlisted Marine comes in to get a "high and tight." The barber asked the young Marine about his service, and a lot of small talk takes place. After the haircut is complete, the Marine opens his wallet and the barber said, "It's on the house Marine. Thanks for your service to this great nation."
The next morning as the barber goes to open his shop, there is a box on his doorstep. In the box was a note of thanks and a "SEMPER FI" bright red T-shirt. That same morning a young Army G.I. comes in for a haircut. The same sort of story happens. They talk about the Army and other small talk.
After the haircut is complete, the G.I. stands and reaches for his wallet.
The barber says, "No thanks, son. It's on the house. Thank you for your service to our country." The next morning as the man is opening his barbershop, on the doorstep is a box with an Army ball cap and a thank you note. That same day, a Master Chief comes in for a haircut. He is decked out in his full dress blues. The barber is impressed and again, the same things happen...small talk about the service. When the Master Chief goes to pay, again the barber says, "Not required, Master Chief, it's on the house."
"Thanks for your service to this great nation." You guessed it, the next morning, as the barber went to open his shop, there on his doorstep were three more Master Chiefs!
"The Five Most Dangerous Things in the US Navy"
A Seaman saying, "I learned this in Boot Camp..."
A Petty Officer saying, "Trust me, sir..."
A Lieutenant JG saying, "Based on my experience..."
A Lieutenant saying, "I was just thinking..."
A Chief chuckling, "Watch this shit..."
This list from Tom McClain, VCP-61, VAP-61, 1958-1961
From "The Hook" 1989
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